An interview with Charles Virtue and Tina Marie Daly by Femke Wijdekop.
Charles Virtue is the son of Doreen Virtue, the famous clairvoyant and author of dozens of books and oracle decks on angels and other heavenly creatures.
Initially being sceptic about the existence of angels, Charles’ own life experiences convinced him without a doubt that angels were real, and he became a teacher of the angelic wisdom in his own right. Together with his mother he wrote Signs from Above, in which they discuss the many ways in which the angels send us messages of support and guidance as we move through this adventure called life.
I spent one hour talking with Charles and his lovely partner and fellow angel therapy practitioner Tina Mary Daly, in which they gave practical guidance about how to get connected with your angels and shared personal anecdotes about their own spiritual and psychic awakening. I have transcribed the first few questions and answers for you here, but you can also click on the audio file at the bottom of the post to listen to the entire interview.
Charles, can you tell our listeners what angels are?
CV: That’s a great and very common question, and it is actually a very interpretive question. When I answer that I definitely want to start by saying that we have our own beliefs and we would never impose our beliefs upon anyone regarding what, exactly, angels are. Because most major religions have an energy within them, they talk about an energy that represents huge similarities to what exactly an angel is.
The basic definition is that an angel is a messenger. The word ‘angel’ means ‘messenger’, and to us, and the way that we communicate and exist with angels, angels are the voice of God. Angels are the voice of Heaven. Angels are an answer to so many problems. Angels are an awakening and awareness that we didn’t come to this planet to suffer. That we came to this planet to find happiness, despite the fragility of our human existence. And the angels are the ones that are there to offer us help, if we accept it, because of our free will, given to us by God. So essentially an angel I would not describe as any one thing, it’s an energy that is all around us and within us, just like the air.
So can we say that angels are a communication channel from God?
CV: That’s exactly what I would say. God can communicate directly with us, and we can communicate directly with God. So we don’t want anyone to think that there is any sort of disconnection there. But the vibration of God is so high and so pure, that it’s often found that when we have stress and we have fear and we have doubt in our hearts, it’s not as easy all the time. And keep in mind: I don’t want to generalize because I’m not everyone, I haven’t been everywhere, but from our experience we found that if you want to immediately get in contact with the messengers of God, the angels are a place to go, because that’s why the angels exist.
And that’s a really important thing that we like to talk about: we don’t have to worry about being qualified to work with the angels, no one needs to take a class or do anything special to learn how to communicate with the angels. Of course they help, but it’s not necessary. The angels are here for us as much as we are here for them.
Why do you think then that so many people are shut off from communicating with their angels and so many people don’t believe in angels, when the whole purpose of the angels is to help us find peace on earth?
CV: Well another amazing question.. I”m loving this interview! I think I’m really qualified to answer this question, because one of the reason I’m so passionate about teaching about angels is that I didn’t believe, growing up. My parents were divorced when I was very young and I lived back and forth between my mother and my father. With my father I was raised strictly catholic. Now I believed in angels – one of my first gifts was an Archangel Michael pendant which I still have – but I didn’t believe in angels to the capacity that my mother was teaching me. And so as a sceptic, who was very conflicted with strong catholic beliefs and a lot of influence of spirituality, I wasn’t sure exactly what this meant.
And the reason why, I found, a lot of people have this fear, is that one, there is an unwillingness to try. People don’t like to take chances. and take risk of failing or of being ‘tricked’ into doing something that doesn’t have any effect, which is understandable: in this world there are a lot of people who want to mislead people for various reasons.
Another reason is that when you start working with the angels, their goal isn’t just to communicate with you. They are not there to have coffee and just see how your day is going. They are here to help us find the divine, pure purpose that we came to this planet to live. So when we start working with the angels, changes start happening. We start having a greater self-awareness and what that does is trigger fear. It triggers the ego. And so, I found a lot of times people will dip into the angel world, they ‘sample’ the energy of it, and then rebel completely because they don’t like what they see, and they don’t like that their ego got so loud. And that’s a lot of why we teach our classes – it’s the overcoming of that lower part of ourselves that tells us we are not special, that tells us we should just be happy with however our life is, and never ask for more.
So part of us is actually resisting opening up to the angels because our ego feels threatened. Is that right?
CV: Our ego feels threatened and a lot of people just want proof, which again is very understandable. It’s one of the things we call ‘spiritual paralysis’, when we say ‘OK I will work with angels if I can get proof that this is actually something worth doing, or if this is something that will actually happen.’ But how the angels work, we need to remember, is that they work with the complete free will that God gave us. And so while they can intervene in extreme situations, in times of danger, the angels are generally just around us, our entire lives, patiently waiting for us to open up our hearts and lives to their influence, to their messages.
And I’ll tell you, if anyone listening to this is even remotely curious about how effective angels can be and just how communicative they are, just try asking them. You can turn it on or off as many times as you want. You’ve got nothing to lose, no one will see you doing it, you don’t have to worry about feeling foolish. It’s worth a shot, please trust me on that (laughs).
TMD: I think that the problem we have as a society – and again, it’s completely understandable – is that we are looking for a quick fix. We want to close our eyes and see the angel and have them speaking to us, they way you and I are speaking right now, and unfortunately that’s just not the way it works.
It’s a whole different language, if you will, when you are communicating with the angels, so it takes a little bit of taking yourself away from the material world, away from the physical world, and really traveling inwards, which can be scary for some people. And by traveling inward, and by opening up to our Higher Selves, and opening up to an energy that is so loving and so beautiful, it might take a little bit of patience. And we tend to think we are going to see something, or expect it to be, as you said it, ‘with angels’ wings’ and so we may be feeling or sensing something, but completely not acknowledging it because we are expecting to see that angel standing there, speaking to us, audibly.
When we can kind of let all that go, we can just kind of begin to open up and trust a little bit more. But it is a process and I feel that some people shut it out without even allowing that process to open them up. So that’s why we do these classes, to help people see, and sense and feel that it may be happening in a way that they are not expecting, and if they just trust and keep with it, as Charles says, the angels are loud and clear as you just open up to it.
So it’s a lot about training the muscles of faith and of centering in yourself, and becoming familiar with the inner realms, as opposed to relying too much on the outer realms.
TMD: Perfectly said.
CV: Yes, and we are also relying too much on human communication, which requires exertion. I put energy into speaking and then I put energy into listening. When you are working with the angels, it’s very much a passive communication. You don’t ever try to communicate with the angels: you allow the communication to take place. You say your prayer, you trust and you know that your prayer is heard. And then you patiently wait for divine timing, which generally is a lot quicker than most people think, for the answer or the sign, or the message or the guidance to come your way, which it inevitably will.
Right, so it’s also about being receptive to the message. What can people do to increase their receptivity and their patience in communicating with the angels?
CV: Well I find that one of the biggest things that interferes with angelic communication, especially when we are first starting, is our own fear. Because we have to remember that the angels help to bring into our lives that which we do want! And going into the law of manifestation, the law of attraction, is that our bodies are magnets. Whatever energy we allow to exist in our body, is essentially the polarization of the magnet. So if we have fears within us, we attract fears. If we have love and light within us, we tend to attract a lot more love and light.
And so when you are asking the angels for something, for help in your life, what really matters is how you feel about the way you communicate with the angels. If you are asking them “Please bring me love into my life. Please bring me that person that’s going to make me feel whole and complete’, and you are asking them from the depths of your heart, and you mean it, but after you pray, for the rest of the day you’re thinking ‘oh that will never happen.. oh that’s unrealistic.. I missed my opportunity’, then what’s happening is that you are working against your prayer. You’re telling the angels ‘I am not ready’. And the angels hear this. Now, that doesn’t mean the angels won’t help you. Instead what they will do is they will help you become ready. But you may not realize that the guidance that they are giving you is directing you towards what you ultimately want, but you have some things to learn along the way. You always hear this with people working with angels: it makes so much more sense when you look back, then when you are actually going through it.
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